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the ecowell podcast


Jan 22, 2019

In this episode, I spoke with Damien Perriman, Senior Vice President, Specialty Chemicals at Genomatica, an innovative biotech company finding sustainable solutions to previously environmentally challenging ingredients. The topic for this podcast: sustainability in cosmetics and limitations in ‘green’ certifications. In our conversation, we broke down the word ‘sustainability’, including what it means and how we can apply metrics for greener materials, current popular ‘natural’ and ‘eco’ certifications, challenges when trying to certify a product or material as ‘green’, whether ‘natural’ is synonymous with ‘sustainable’, challenges Genomatica has experienced with certifications, and more. ‘Sustainability’ is anything but a simple concept, but it is a very important one. If we want to truly be more sustainable as an industry, we really need to be having these conversations, applying science-based metrics to how we define sustainability, and approaching the subject with a united front.